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Heroic is a 3pt upgrade

by looryl_louie_qrygg · 4mo ago · 7 posts · 457 views

looryl_louie_qryggOP

set dials and roll dice

4mo ago

Discuss.

GREGKASHADMINREBEL · SEPARATIST

I Made this Mess

4mo ago

No.

Taylor_PirateIMPERIAL · SCUM · FIRST ORDER

Maybe a Playtester?

4mo agoedited 4mo ago

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schdarrRESISTANCE

HEROIC

4mo ago

Heroic is fine as is. Leave it alone!

quall3SCUM · SEPARATIST

4mo ago

yes

BazookaJoe

3mo ago

My opinion is, (rolls 2 green blanks) HEROIC IS TOO GOOD and should be upped to 3!!! (rerolls dice and gets 2 evades) HEROIC SHOULD COST ONLY 1!!!

Seriously though, I think its probably OK where its at.

Connor_RichardsREBEL · RESISTANCE · REPUBLIC

1mo ago

Heroic feels much stronger than it actually is due to our selective bias primarily remembering all of the times it triggers, and especially the times it works well, and we do not keep track of every single 2-dice roll that it does nothing. Looking at the statistics...

When 2 hits are coming in and a ship with 2 agility, no focus, and no Heroic is defending, expected damage is:
1.25
Add on Heroic and expected damage becomes:
1.145, so ~10% of the time they take 1 less damage

Same situation, but the defending ship has a focus token and no Heroic, expected damage is:
0.75
Add on Heroic and expected damage becomes:
0.574, so ~18% of the time they take 1 less damage assuming they will spend their focus

Take all of that into account, and Heroic on average saves a ship from 1 damage every 7-10 attacks. So maybe once every 1-2 games. 2 points is likely a fine cost for that.

Ampmann

1mo ago

Confirmation bias is absolutely a factor in disliking Heroic. Everyone remembers the time that a ship rolled 3 blanks only to reroll into 3 nat evades. No one thinks about the times a ship rolls blanks and an eye so that Heroic doesn't trigger. Or the times that Heroic rerolls into useless results.

There is a sense that a player thinks he deserves the blank results on the opponent's dice.

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